@Avoca Try searching in the UK National Archives as
this often contains ship information and occasionally newspaper articles with illustrations of the vessel. They would also appear in lloyds register of shipping.Occasionally there are drawings of the ship (outline drawings) which can give enough information
for ascratch build. Try asking copilot.microsoft.com too. It can work like a super googlr search
'Tell me about ship Tasmania 18xx sailing from Xxxx xxxx'
You can then ask 'is there a model kit'

If what I have found out he served his time in NSW, of the 30 or so other inmates he was on of the few who didn't start a relationship so if it's all true I don't have any Australian contacts , he spent his final days working in the Sydney hospital, back in England he had a wife and two children* as I say not sure how true it all is Col

* the line back via my great grandmother

@ColRay

Haha...man, those Freo convicts got up to some nasty stuff I've read.

That Sth. West W.A. coastline has some very big waves, very big 'fish', and, very pointy edges

Fremantle, Albany and Bunbury are nothing like half-way up the Derwent, or in Port Philip or Botany Bay.

Do you have any history?

Uncle George : trip downunder was on the luxury cruise ship 'Tottenham' Col

As I continue to work through a bit of my family history, the list of vessels involved in resettling some of my ancestors grows.

To date they include..

Palmyra, 1846 (convict) (ex-Southhampton)
Earl Grey, 1850 (convict) (ex-Dublin)
Tasmania, 1851 (migration) (ex-Sunderland(?))
Bournuef, 1852 (migration) (ex-Sunderland(?))
Lizzie Webber, 1852 (migration) (ex-Berwick-upon-Tweed)
Black Eagle, 1854 (migration) (ex-Berwick-upon-Tweed)
Tayluer, 1854 (migration, shipwrecked, no family survivors) (ex-Liverpool)

If anyone knows of an existing kit/project involving one of these ships, please let me know.

At the moment I'm just running around in circles, likely to disappear up my own ...

Cheers.

@Avoca
A striking story, Murray.

@Avoca
Hi Murray.
If I recall correctly, Chugalone said that, and he was certainly right.
Kudos on your Italian (I use online translators).

For those interested, this short extract from a media story provides chilling insights into a tragic event.

+"... Tayleur left Liverpool on 19 January 1854, on her maiden voyage, for Melbourne, Australia, with a
complement of 652 passengers and crew. She was commanded by 29-year-old Captain John Noble.

During the inquiry, it was determined that her crew of 71 had only 37 trained seamen amongst
them, and of these, 10 could not speak English. It was reported in newspaper accounts that many of the crew
were seeking free passage to Australia. Most of the crew were able to survive.

Her compasses did not work properly because of the Iron Hull. The crew believed that they were sailing
south through the Irish Sea, but were actually travelling west towards Ireland. On 21 January 1854, within 48
hours of sailing, Tayleur found herself in a fog and a storm, heading straight for the isle of Lambay. The
rudder was undersized for her tonnage, so that she was unable to tack around the island.

The rigging was also faulty; the ropes had not been properly stretched, so that they became slack, making it nearly impossible to
control the sails. Despite dropping both anchors as soon as rocks were sighted, she ran aground on the east
coast of Lambay Island, about 5 miles from Dublin Bay..."+

58 years later, the same company, The White Star Line, lost The Titanic, also on a maiden voyage.

There's more of the article attached to the Build Blog for further reading.

And, in a strange coincidence, 5 years earlier, my other gggGreat Grandmother was 'transported' to Van Diemans Land on The Earl Grey.... from Dublin Bay.

È andato tutto a rotoli, amico mio.

God I love computers...

@AlessandroSPQR

"... A member recently stated that ship models with a personal connection are worth more..."

I am starting to think that it such a true statement. Looking at models of vessels that relatives spent months bobbing around the oceans in really stirs the imagination and shows how, either desperate or, courageous they were.

My g.g.g.Grand Mother, a distant aunt and 2 distant uncles were on this ship at this time.

All were lost at sea.

A quel tempo si trovavano su questa nave la mia nonna lontana, una zia lontana e due zii.

Cheers.

@AlessandroSPQR

Haha...

Beh, assicurati di volare. Se la storia della mia famiglia è un indizio, le imbarcazioni a vela non sono davvero la scelta migliore.

Ciao.

@Avoca
Extremely harsh punishments—watch out, there’s talk of being shipped off to Australia, hahaha.

A member recently stated that ship models with a personal connection are worth more.



P.S. Se la punizione fosse veramente quella scriverei subito in italiano.

@AlessandroSPQR

Grazie per l'avvertimento. Mi aspetto una severa rimprovero a breve allora. Salute.

Murray.

@Avoca There is no rush; when embarking on a ship model build, one knows it will be enjoyable but also demanding and a long-term commitment, so it is best to give the choice careful thought. In any case, these will be complex and fascinating ships, and I look forward to seeing the work begin. Thank you for your thoughtfulness and courtesy; I prefer Italian, though I should mention that the rules require communication to take place only in English (Fireboat told me this early on).

@ColRay

Ok, got it.

So, the question is, why can't you do what is being done in the Cloud, locally.

At this point, I would suggest its the software you use or editing files that requires the Internet, rather than the printer itself.

Let me preface this next part by saying, ALL my internet and computers are connect to the Internet, when needed, by a 4G SIM Modem/WiFi Router. Zero cables or Satellite dishes locally.

My entire system draws less than 250W at full power, except for, as I checked today, when the BL will be running which peaks at 1600W.

I have a 3000W Pure Sine Wave inverter in my tool box, 230AH of AGL-type batteries and 2 x 160W of panels on the roof of my car. Also a 3.5KW petrol genset as back-up.

My point being, I intend to use this printer sitting on the passenger seat of my car, camped at Lake Eyre where there won't be a Cloud connection.

I have no doubt in my mind I can do it and won't need a Cloud connection to edit, slice, translate or do any other file manipulations/modifications.

I would suggest Ukranian drone makers don't need a Cloud service to work at "the front".

Happy to chat further if you're interested, but, I don't think your problem is the printer itself, maybe time for a software and process review, so don't discount the new BL just yet.

Cheers.

Good afternoon
I hope this makes it a tad clearer
My workflow with my setup
Purchase or find free STL 3D files on line > then I can change them in a program like Tinkercar or just use them the way they are> transfer to the Ender slicer save as 'G' file and load on SD card > load the SD card in my printer and it's all systems GO!
For my understanding with BL > the start for the work flow is the same as I use for my Ender>once the STL files have been sliced they are sent via a phone connection to what may be called the Cloud > The STL files are then transmitted back so printer can print Col
This may be all wrong , but I'm sure I'm not off the mark

@ColRay

Ummm, sorry, what needs to be 'online' for file transfer?

And when you say 'online', you mean connected to the Internet?

Or just local, Bluetooth, WiFi or Ethernet service?

I understand downloading the Master plan files from websites requires the Internet, but once everything is in the same room, so to speak, basically, you shouldn't need to be truly 'online' to operate the machine.

The actual print file is just a cable, in most cases, between computer and device.

On that basis, you could go the local library, download your internet Master file to a USB stick(or similar), and you're good to go, AFAIK.

I'm confused. Maybe I'm missing something here.

Let me put is this way. There is no way in hell I'm connecting my $1000.00 3D printer to the Internet, either directly or indirectly. Period.

A 3D printer is just a fancier version of an inkjet printer(which is a 2D printer).

It just has the extra D, that being the Z axis, or height. Its just another stepper motor and a fancy 'bed' to print on instead of just a sheet of paper.

Cheers.

3D printing My Clyde Puffer project is made that way, file download from the internet, a few I have changed using Tinkercad like the anchor Col

G'day M the small parts are 3D I would say about 20%'
I have been also looking at the Bambu P 2 the problem I have is way it needs an online connection for the file transfer Col

@AlessandroSPQR

Hi there,

Sorry for the confusion, and, tbh, your not the only one.

I need to sit back and look at what best suits the builds I'm planning.

Though initially I thought I'd start with the 1/80th scale Palmyra, three other ships with direct family links have emerged today, so that's now five sailing ships that I can place members of my family on with dates, routes, manifests, embark/disembark schedules, etc. etc. that, arguably need the same attention.

So, please bear with me, things have developed so rapidly in 24 hours, who knows what tomorrow may bring.

But, I will be starting 'something' as soon as possible, and thanks for the interest.

Also, if you give me your preferred language, I will happy to post multiple paragraphs.

Anche se credo di poter immaginare...

Cheers

Murray

@Avoca
Hi Avoca,
Sorry, I got a bit confused—perhaps due to translation difficulties—but which model do you intend to build first?
Perhaps the Bourneuf or the Tasmania?
Are there kits available, do you have construction plans, or are you able to build them based on paintings and other historical information?

@ColRay

Is that a 3D print???

Decided on the BambuLab XD-2, around Christmas after a demo this morning.

Man I love technology!

Great little model too.

Cheers.

@canabus

Haha... nah, Reservoir, Vic I'm afraid.

I plan to come down and do the convict descendent rubber-neck stuff when, or should I say IF, you guy's ever sort your ferry prices for vehicles out, or even get the bloody things operational.

I sure as hell can't afford motels etc. all around the place, so camper trailer it is!

Anyway I digress.

Lauderdale Canal huh...

How ironic it would be if I built a replica of the Earl Grey and sailed it, for fun, just up the road from The Cascades Women's Farm, which is where the original vessel dropped her off for a few years R&R many moons ago.

Although, now I'm not sure irony is the right word.

But sure, keen make some connections down your way if possible.

Cheers.

Hello Matey
So do ewe live in Van Diemans Land or deported to the dark land to the north ???
We run our model boats at Lauderdale Canal on a Saturday morning.
Harry

A diorama scratch built is always a good starting point.
My son has never taken part in.
My part was the front end Col

@ColRay

Whoooah there little dogie...

Let's see, expected budget divided to two does NOT equal 50% of original budget x 5!

Not in the view of my 'bank manager's' eyes anyway.

We'll see...

One option I've 'sorta' already kicked about is, reproducing all 5 at ~ the same scale and then creating an open ocean diorama(?) as a comparative display.

So, while the project has increased in size, each vessel might need to reduce in size to accommodate room and budget.

At the moment I need some dimensions and a ton of graph paper, and maybe some of those off-grid hydro 'vegies' of your's.

Cheers.

So the model should start soon ? Col